Fire Safe Cigarettes and the Industry (FSC) (carpet glue)
Last year I wrote about the reasons for buying Phillip Morris International as a safe, anti-dollar investment. Well, after doing some more research into the cigarette industry, I’ve found that there is cause for concern. Fire safe cigarettes. (FSC)
Fire Safe Cigarettes (FSC)
New York state was the first to require that cigarettes be made with fire-safe paper, though all 50 states have already required, or are trying to require, the new fire-safe technology. The FSC paper is made by gluing two to three bands of paper together with ethylene vinyl acetate to slow, or stop, the burning when a smoker has not puffed the cigarette for more than a minute.
The Guts: Ethylene Vinyl Acetate
Ethylene Vinyl Acetate, the product that holds the cigarette paper together, is essentially carpet glue. The product has no accepted internal (ingestion) purpose, and is considered to be highly toxic. In fact, the Material Safety Data Sheet, the “expert” on material uses says the following about ethylene vinyl acetate, “Not considered hazardous under normal conditions of use.” Normal conditions, of course, are those that include gluing a new carpet to the floor. Yuck!
The Data Sheet continues, in the same paragraph stating; “Can release irritating or toxic fumes and vapors if involved in a fire.” Naturally, all cigarettes are involved in a fire, as that is the only way they can be consumed.
What’s in a FSC?
Well, a lot. The health risks are plenty when inhaling the smoke from Fire Safe Cigarettes. FSC’s produced 13.9% more Naphthalene and 11.4% more carbon monoxide than regular cigarettes. Naphthalene is a nasty chemical, the main ingredient in moth balls, and contributes to the following conditions: headache, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, malaise, confusion, anemia, jaundice, convulsions, and coma.
Identifying Fire Safe Cigarettes
Smokers need only to evaluate the bar code of their favorite brand to see if their cigarettes are in fact fire safe. These cigarettes have an “FSC” printed above the bar code, and include all the ingredients and additional health risks as shown above. Ironically, since New York passed the legislation to include this ingredients in 2004, the amount of deaths due to cigarette fires have not decreased. In fact, many complain that FSCs are more likely to create fires, due to the fact that the ember falls off the cigarette more frequently.
Tying it into your portfolio
I originally suggested Phillip Morris International due to the fact that it operated outside the jurisdiction, and regulation, of the US government and Congress. However, my research indicates that many other countries, including Australia, could soon require that producers add fire safe chemicals to their cigarettes.
Not Good for the Cigarette Industry
Besides higher federal cigarette taxes in the United States (Now $1.01 per pack), smokers are in outrage about the new added chemicals. Smokers complain about a different and less enjoying taste, often cited to be “metallic” as well as a slew of side effects including drier mouths, lips and irritation of the throat and lungs. Also, cigarettes seemingly go out without 100% attention, requiring smokers to relight the cigarettes frequently. Many smokers also report sparks from the cigarettes when smoked, likely the result of the “carpet glue” being burnt with each puff. Another common problem appears to be a “brown tongue” from residue of the cigarette that some claim is nearly impossible to brush away.
FDA Involvement
Interestingly, after a number of complaints, the FDA is looking into cigarette ingredients. Likely, nothing will ever be found and very little will come of it but further regulation but only time will tell. As I said last year, and I’ll say again, the cigarette industry is truly a dying breed in the United States. If regulation continues passed the US borders, I’ll have to consider dumping my holdings of Phillip Morris International.
Your Opinion Counts
I want to hear your opinion, smoker or nonsmoker, in the comment section below. I can tell from my research that this is a very important issue for smokers and I would welcome any comments or additional information/personal experience each of you may have.
My letter to the FDA:
I am a 49 year old woman who has been smoking for 35 years. In the later years I changed cigarettes frequently, searching for the lowest tar/nicotine. A few years ago I found a good brand. They were extremely mild and after smoking them for a while, I added the Nic-Out filter for an even milder smoke. Then I found out that my cholesterol is high. Not wanting to add a med to my diet, I searched the internet and found one of the main factors in high cholesterol was low good cholesterol. And, the best way to improve that number was to quit smoking.
I have been trying e-cigarettes for a while. It’s been trial and error, until one day when I bought my cigarettes and they tasted terrible and were very harsh on my throat. I thought it was me and went on smoking. I started developing chest pains, swollen tongue; all kinds of strange symptoms. I finally called the tobacco company to see if they had made a change in the way they make them. I was told that the only change was the fire safe paper they’re rolled in. I went from the e-cig to the cigarette and back again to test them. It is the new paper making me sick. And, there is no alternative as this law appears to be going nationwide.
http://www.nfpa.org/gallery/FSC_2map2.htm
I am nearly 100% e-cigarette now. I have no more symptoms and my oxygen level is at 99 for the first time ever! I can’t wait to have my cholesterol numbers checked again. My views on the e-cig companies so far: Smoke Assassin had a nice size and weight, but no nicotine to wean down from and a vanilla flavoring – yuck. Smoking Everywhere is large and heavy, but satisfying with various levels of nicotine available (including zero); however, the cartridges dry out too quickly. I just received Smoke Relief and the size and weight are good; gives you a full drag, and one cartridge lasts me all day.
http://www.smokereliefnow.com/new-years-savings/
I’ve found my solution. But, to help those who haven’t, I’ve signed and helped spread this petition. Please read what people are saying about FSC.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/repeal-fire-safe-cigarette-laws
If any good came from the FSC, it’s that it is leading to more people quitting.
A satisfied e-cig user; soon to be totally vice free!!
RESPONSE:
Thank you for your recent inquiry. Check with your state legislature on the requirements about the addition of fire retardants to cigarettes. FDA does not have the authority to require manufacturers to add fire retardants to cigarettes. Among its many provisions, the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act requires tobacco product manufacturers and importers to submit to FDA lists of ingredients, including the quantity, added to their products, and to report any changes to these ingredients. FDA recently provided industry with guidance on what specific ingredient information is to be submitted. Among other things, FDA is asking manufacturers to identify those ingredients that are added to reduce the ignition propensity of their cigarettes to comply with state fire-safe cigarette laws. To keep updated on how the FDA is implementing the Tobacco Control Act, please visit Center for Tobacco Products’ Web site at
http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts
i think,we keep updated on how the FDA is implementing the Tobacco Control Act
It is a “CRIME” for the lawmakers to cram this down our lungs, YES it is stupid to smoke, but just because some ignorant people fall asleep smoking in bed we have to smoke “Carpet Glue”.
I am all for fire safety, but when I put my wife in the hospital in October, I became suspicious. She has been smoking 30 years. Her lungs looked as if she never smoked. After FSCs hit the market she started to complain that her chest felt like it was caving in. After we spent much money on doctor’s bills the solution was Previcid. When my wife began smoking again she felt fine(non-fsc) A little later I bought a pack for her(fsc) and her symptoms came back. What is the tobacco companies doing? First they add stuff to make it burn faster. Now they are adding stuff to put it out. There are now over 600 additives in a manufactured cigarette. Come on Phillip-Morris and RJ Reynolds get with the program or everyone is going to go MYO.
signed
concerned husband
I always purchased my Marlboro 100s by the carton. At the end of December I purchased my next carton and couldn’t understand what was wrong with my cigarettes. After looking up on the net what heck was going on, I saw that my new carton was FSC. . .After a lot of searching, I opted to buy EU cigarettes. These are Marlboro without FSC. I will NOT have the government dictate what I can and cannot do with my own God given free will and choices! The cigarettes that I purchase are two cartons of EU for the price of one US! I am saving money PLUS I am not smoking carpet glue! I will NEVER buy another pack from my local store!
So it is illegal for people to inhale glue to get high, but we can smoke it???? that makes a lot of sense to me. These cigs are way toxic. I have started rolling my own. Invest in RYO products. That is what everyone has started doing to keep from getting sick. They will have to do something about this. Toxic fumes inhaled by millions, not good!!!!
I am a smoker and have had all of the symptoms from the fsc cigs. It is horrible. It is not an exaggeration. When I emailed one of the so called coalition for fsc cigs. They told me it was ok, people would get used to it. OMG, people will get used to it? That was the scariest email I have ever read. They need to pull these things before people start dropping like fly’s, just sayin.
Just how much damage have they done, and what is yet to come ?
Why am I getting so upset, when all that it probably is, just a little bit of harmless, governmentally dispensed, genocide. Hmmmmmm… You know what, it’s probably, just to be certain, we don’t injure ourselves, right ?
You wanna know what else ? They’ve got it covered all the way around. If, you should fall over dead while consuming this super poisoned contraption and it creates a house fire, killing the rest of your family, you will be able to take solace . No one will ever blame it on your habit because, you were, indeed, using fire standard compliant smokes . Finally, the most ironic part of it all will be when, the fire chief’s report concludes that, you simply just fell asleep, during a house fire, of a new, mysterious and unknown origin.
But seriously, if you don’t want to die many, many more times sooner than before, then you should do just as I did and vow to never smoke another FSC (fire standard compliant cigarette) . Alternatively though, I will,(especially now) continue to smoke tobacco in any form until it has been made entirely illegal . Also, if things don’t change by that time, I will have considered this nation unfit for habitation by freedom loving individuals such as myself.
These new and much more effecient, liver killing, death sticks had me sick for 6 months ! I had no Idea what was causing it until January, 1, 2010. I almost died ! I already had a liver condition . Thanks for the “heads up” “big brother”.
But wait, theres even more ! Do you feel a lump in your throat ? Is your chest on fire ? Having palpitations, overly accelerated pulse rate, insomnia, anxiety and/or mental depression ? Pulmonary edema , severe weakness, headaches, dizziness, kidney problems ? Are you having any symptoms of central nervous system depression, confusion, hoarseness, an inability to sleep in a horizontal posistion,and much , much more ?
When you get sick and you visit your Dr. he or she may have trouble diagnosing your condition . If so, just ask to be checked for ethylene vinyl acetate (carpet glue) and napthalene(moth ball) poisoning . Also, (this is important) don’t forget to mention that you have been burning and inhaling it at, what are apparently, toxic levels !
I would like to thank nanny government and all of the great many social engineers who are working so hard on my behalf . Now , instead of taking up to what could have been decades to kill myself, I can use the new and improved, fsc death stick, and potentialy, do the job in as little as a matter of months.
But seriously, smoker’s will now start to drop like flies, and you know what they will have to say , “Now you know, as we have already told you, smoking is very dangerous”. I have been a smoker for 30 years and have never had any symtoms other than an occasional cough until, the stealthy introduction of the fsc’s.
60 million, demonized and bullied US.citizens, may not seem to be that big of a percentage compared to the rest population but, 60 million people can completely blow the (always closed) doors from this crooked government and the rest of it’s perverted, twisted , greedy, narcissistic, social engineers ! 60 million voters can create a heck of a large swing vote . If we will all speak together our voice will be, overwhelmingly loud. Let our voice not, go unheard ! Once again, let freedom ring !
Call , write or e-mail your state and federal representaives and don’t forget to register and VOTE !
In case you haven’t already done so, don’t forget to sign and if you wish, leave a comment on the rather large and fast growing petition at,
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/repeal-fire-safe-cigarette-laws
Just in case, you are still a skeptical anti-smoker and don’t believe any of this, then I dare you, (with your heart) to just read a few pages of the comments made. A lot of these unwitting victims of this atrocity will undoubtedly now have to suffer for life.
Wouldn’t you expect to have been advised If the toxicity of your favorite medications , make-up or food additives you have come to depend upon, been increased, substantialy ?
Self destruction is human nature. You choose your vehicle, I will choose mine .
Disclaimer, I am not affiliated with any tobacco or nicotine product manufacturing, promotions, sales, shipping and/or otherwise.
I am 51 and have smoked since I was a teen. Until now never had the issues as I do now since I have had to be inhaling these new FSC’s. I think the people should ban together, get a good attorny and sue the heck out of all involved in the FSC’s. Its appauling to say the least of the research Ive done today to know the facts of what they are allowing us to inhale. Basically carpet glue that isnt suppose to be in any type of heat so no telling what its even doing worse. I have had severe headaches, very constint dry mouth, bad taste, coughing very bad, throat irritation. I really didnt realize till today how bad this was. Im rolling my own for now on. Remeber its not in the tabacco its in the papers.
Honestly dont blame the cig companaies. Its the FDA thats done this. If the cig companies had it there way they would have never done this. They fought long and hard against this. Of course you know the gov will always win eventually.
Okay…same physical complaints as everyone…Began to roll my own.
Pray they do effect the tubes.
I have feared for a long time that the cigarette laws (not smoking in bars, etc.) have been nothing but a trial balloon for controlling people. Now I’m certain of it.
I have read on some sites that some are blaming the right, some blame the left. Believe me…this is all about the money.
So buy your electronic smoking machines if you want.
Me, I’ll keep rolling.
How ridiculous…rise up people!
Pavlov’s dog comes to mind…
These are not fire safe, far from it. I’ve never felt a danger of burning my house down from smoking cigarettes, but now I do. When I have to re-light a cigarette, embers fly everywhere. Earlier this week they burnt a hole through my mattress, I had to dump water on it because my attempt to rub it out with my finger only pushed it deeper in. Suppose I had missed where that tiny ember fell?
From what I’ve heard, this chemical is making people sick. The fact that it not only doesn’t create a safer smoking environment but is also causing so much more damage to our bodies highly suggests that it’s aim was not to decrease the fire hazard. I feel it’s only purpose is to get yet another hazardous chemical into our bodies, and you can submit your own theories for that.
I was wondering why I’ve been feeling nauseated and light headed so often lately. Only after some research am I making the connection of it happening after smoking.
we should be given the choice to smoke or not i do not the government has the right to add toxics adgents in our tabacco.it is a violation of our rights which are slowly be taken away from us slowly each day no one seems to care or willing to stand up for our selves our constituion is slowly becoming a thing of the past and nobody seems to care
they are not only putting the tabacco industry out of business,but they are slowing killing people,i recently relit my cig. and when it relit it caught a shirt i was wearing to start to burn huge hole in it.it is our civil right to smoke therefore it is a voulation of our civil rights,my question is what happens to our rights next
This is all so common with our government…passing regulations that really only hurts the common citizen and generally has NO common sense attached to it! They rarely represent us and actually have disdain for us. I guess none of us should be surprised though…get a bunch of “intellectual” individuals together whos’ only passions are to see their own agendas’ forwarded with no real regard for anyone else…least of all the common US citizen…
Create cigarettes in a manner that lessens the chance of starting a fire in your home…hmm…sounds good but:
The leading cause of house fires in the USA is COOKING!!!
How can the FDA put regulations on home cooking??? Force all of us to dine out???
When will common sense enter the minds of our elected officials???
I’m 50 years old so I doubt I’ll see it in my lifetime…
BTW, if carpet glue in cigarette paper snuffs out the potential for a house fire then I’m sure that the FDA will soon be sticking their nose in residential building codes in that all new homes will be glued together instead of the usual “nail the sticks together” method…
Seems a bit foolish…doesn’t it?
I am an MD that smokes. I was having no problems until the FSC paper began to be used and I developed severe bursitis in both shoulders. this went on for over 6 months without any relief (and possibly worsening) until it hit me that perhaps the FSC was causing it. I went to only non-FSC cigs and in 48 hours the symptoms had improved by at least 50%. By one week I could raise my arm up to normal heights without the pain. Some may say that was coincidence but I don’t believe it. I am not willing to go back to FSC cigs to prove that the symptoms reappear, and I now “roll my own” with non FSC paper and have no problems with the bursitis.
Not that it will surprise most good Americans but this was initiated in the previous administration and now continues with this current one. Not much will done about this as from what I understand this lethal paper is made in…..you guessed it….China! Since they now own 60% of our debt you can be guaranteed nothing will be done. No one seems to be able to find out if any testing on humans was ever done. Also, it already has and is going to be causing a huge impact on the health care costs. I won’t go into what happened to me but I will just tell you that I feel lucky to have survived. I will recommend that you take a copy of a MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) on Ethylene Vinyl Acetone polymer (EVA) and request a blood test and also have an EKG run to see if any heart damage has occurred. I don’t believe many Doctors are even aware and won’t be unless you tell them. Even you have an unexplained infection even in your toes or fingers have at least the bloodwork done. The damaging effects of this chemical is fast acting – even within days. There will many unexplained deaths too because there are so many that don’t even know why they are sick. By the time you know it is not the flu the effects can be serious. The cowards could have at least put a orange flourescent sticker on the outside of the package stating they had added a lethal chemical. Pray for this country that we are on a fast track of losing…forever.
Repeal the FSC law. These are more dangerous than the old style. Plus they taste like shit.
FSC or fire safe cigarette laws were passed state by state using deception and misinformation. FSC cigarettes greatly increase the health risks for smokers. Fires have actually increased for smokers in New York, the first state to pass the law. See:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rebecca-brooks/fire-safe-cigarette-laws_b_519867.html
Please help spread the word so we can get these dangerous laws repealed!
Just points out that no cigarettes are safe.
I have been smoking for almost 30 years and have never had any problems. For the last five months, I have been smoking the new FSC cigarettes, which taste like crap. For the last four months, my tongue has been swollen, has a kind of beige coating on it (which will not come off), has sores on it and what looks like cracks, and stings with everything I eat or drink. I saw my doctor who sent me to an ENT (Ear, Nose, Thoat) doctor. He biopsied a piece of my tongue!!! The biopsy came back normal, but I am still having these issues with my tongue. Please reply if you have had or are having the same issues. At least I will know what is causing this tremendously uncomfortable problem. Thank you.
I’ve been getting headaches every day for months. I don’t know why I didn’t realize it before, but a few months ago while fighting a sinus infection and terrible chest infection (chronic since 9/200 and I presume related to these chemicals) I noticed that with each drag on a cig, I got terrible pain in my face around my eyes. Then I noticed that along with the headache, I got dizzy and I felt like some force had sucked all the energy out of my body and I could barely walk. All with a cigarette. I literally felt as bad as I did when I was a teen and started smoking. I’ve also been fighting a chronic nerve irritation that makes me feel like I’m being tickled all over from my skin to my bones. Thinking back, this has been going on for a lot longer than a few months.
So then I find out from a friend that cigs now have carpet glue in them. The Internet informs me I’m inhaling more napthalene and the burnt glue. I am so pissed right now that I could bite the throats out of the legistrators that approved this apparently untested new product and never told me about it. In fact, I’m livid. Have signed the petition and I’m going to RYO cigs today. I will quit smoking when I’M ready, not when the f’ing government tells me to or tries to force me to.
Yeah, I want a lawsuit against the companies and the states and other government agencies involved in this debacle.
A!holes!!!
FSC Cigarette Complaint Line:
1-518-772-5527
DO NOT: Leave a call back number
List the physical symptoms that FSC Cigarettes have caused you. Tell your story if you wish. How did you find out FSC Cigarettes are what were making you sick?
IMPORTANT: Your message is being recorded and maybe used in an up coming audio CD that will be sold on amazon and target stores to inform the public of FSC Cigarettes.
Feel free to copy and paste this ENTIRE message to other boards and forums so we can get more information from more people!
This week of June 20, 2010 My wife and I started to buy loose tobacco and cigarette tubes and packed our own smokes. The cost is less than a third of what 2 cartons of brand name cigarettes cost, ($30 for 2 cartons) as apposed to $98 for basic and doral. If you buy the loose tobacco it is approx. $25 per bag and it makes 2 cartons. the tubes are about $2.50 for a carton. I immediately felt better…… not 100% but after 5 days the lump in my throat is gone. I still have a weird numbing sensation in my legs, but it is 50% of what it was. The headaches are gone as is the constant nausea & tightened chest. I would recommend either quitting, e-cigs or RYO……. do not put this chemical in your body DO NOT BUY BRAND NAME CIGARETTES. The government will not repeal this mandate and we are stuck with it……These things will kill you!
this is no lie Sence i been smoking these FSC cigarette everyday I feel like their killing me more and more I feel the goverment is trying to get rid of us smokers by killing us off I guess cancer, and the other smoking dieases ain’t quick enought for them so they their speeding up the process with FSC for thier dream of a smoke free America But what about our dreams !!!!
I am a 49 year old fem. who has been smoking way too long but until he last 6 months have had little or no troubles.Since FSC in cigs I have noticed a constant numbness in my legs and my left arm at times is practically useless,I can’t trust that whatever I pick up I won;t drop or the pain and brning sensation is horrible.If anyone else out there has noticed increased pain and numbness in their arms please reply.
I have been a Carlton menthol 100′s smoker for years and then in the fall of 2009, I began noticing an awful odor coming from, I thought, my new furnace. The smell was overwhelming and it was even coming thru my air purifiers! Thru the following month’s, I noticed that my cigarettes would go out if I placed them in my ashtray for over a moment. Well, a couple of months ago, I realized that the toxic smell was coming from my cigarettes and was now coming out thru my urine and thru my skin!!!
I finally called RJ Reynolds to find out if they were doing something different with their cigarettes. At first, the young lady said “nothing” then finally said they were using a fire retardant paper. I issued a complaint then and there and, unfortunately, it was taken very non-chalantly! To add insult to injury, the cigarette companies nor the government ever alerted us to the change!!!!!!!!!
I am CONVINCED that the chemicals this industry is using now has made cigarettes more toxic than ever in our history!!!!! We must let them know that, if they do not stop with the “FSC,” that within a very short time, there will be class action lawsuits re: the effects of these new chemicals on smokers! There may be a reduction in house fires etc. but most of us will be dead due to FSC chemicals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vivienne, when you asked RJ Reynolds if they were doing something different, they said “nothing”? I’m speechless.
By the way, FSC cigarettes are causing more fires for smokers. This is a crime.
See: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rebecca-brooks/fire-safe-cigarette-laws_b_519867.html
Uninformed by my state government, uninformed by local, state, and national media, I wondered what the hell was wrong with the first cigarette I smoked out of a fresh carton of Marlboro Lights. That one cigarette made me instantly ill: incredible, instant, breathtaking chest pain, ringing in my ears, complete corruption of taste buds (everything I ate for the next eight – eight! – days tasted awful), headaches, intense nausea. You guessed it: “Fire Safe” cigarettes.
So after that first FSC I just thought I’d gotten a bum ciggie – this has happened infrequently over the forty years I’d smoked. But then the next ciggie, and the next one, and the one after that – they all tasted vile, they all sparked and dropped unusually large clumps of still-burning ash – even when I wasn’t flicking the ash off the damned diabolical (and poisonous) things.
So after a few bum ciggies from the first pack in teh carton, I set that pack aside, and then to my dismay found that the smokes-that-don’t-smoke from the next pack had the same vile, repulsive taste, the same odious smelling smoke emissions, and the same instantly sickening effects.
Went online, discovered I’d been sold – without my CONSENT – the new Missouri-legislated “Fire Safe” cigarettes. I returned all the unopened packs and got my money back. Then I switched to cheap bargain brand that still hadn’t switched to FSC – this brand didnt taste as good as my old favorite pre-FSC Marlboro Lights, but at least they didn’t make me instantly sick and feel as if my life were in imminent danger of ending from the sickening symptoms.
Now – as of 1 September 2010 – even the cheap bargain brand switched to all-FSC. So I bought a rolling machine and a stock of ciggie tubes and bulk tobacco. I will roll my own because I refuse to allow my own government to POISON my ciggies with FSC “technology” and thus also to POISON me to chronic sickness and early death.
The FSC’s were imposed on us smokers by the anti-smoking Nazis of the Coaltion For Fire-Safe Cigarettes (CFSC) whose axe-grinding social engineers adopted new anti-smoker tactics: instead of lobbying the federal government to get their way, the CFSC lobbied – supported by data from very few studies of FSC “technology” but no studies (NO STUDIES!) of the effects upon smokers’ health of smoking FSC’s – state governments to impose FSC’s on citizens who choose to smoke. That’s how the CFSC anti-smoking Nazis (and their slick Ilya Ehrenburg bum’s-rush spurious FSC “technology” data and highfaluting but baseless propaganda claims of the “advantages” of FSC’s) stampeded our states’ legislators (who are supposed to represent us, not POISON us) into a rapid nationwide sweep of FSC laws.
The CFSC based its entire – and deliberately stealthy, no-publicity except for distribution among anti-smoking social engineers – FSC imposition campaign almost entirely on just one Harvard “study” that was neither comprehensive, nor conclusive on the “advantages” of FSC’s. It turns out that this Harvard (cunning of CFSC to choose a heavyweight name “study” for CFSC to cherry-pick “data” and quotes from) was funded by another group of anti-smoking Nazis: now how could a study paid for by people who want to wipe out smokers’ freedom to smoke possibly yield data unfavorable to the imposition of FSC’s?
Moreover, so concerned were CFSC’s anti-snoking Nazi social engineers about smoker’s health and well-being that CFSC and other anti-smoking groups did not trouble themselves to study the effects of FSC-smoking on, you know, the victims of FSC’s – on smokers. No need to study any such thing when you anoint and appoint yourselves the Champions Of Butting Into Other People’s Lives & Depriving Other People Of Their Chosen Pursuit Of Happiness now, is there?
FSC’s a are a lie sold to politicians by liars who could actually not care less about us üntermenschen who choose to smoke ciggies…and to pay the pitiless, whoppingly increased punitive taxes (no other group in this country would have tolerated a 200%-plus ciggie-sized tax increase on their particular pursuit of happiness) that the anti-smoking Nazis also made sure were heaped on ciggies so they could try to put the squeeze on our pocketbooks.
The whole CFSC campaign, the way legislators allowed themselves to be stampeded into mandating FSC’s – without a single study on FSC’s deleterious health effects, is a sordid, squalid tale indeed. Except it’s not a tale – it’s the truth. Welcome, then, my fellow smokers, to the New POISONED cigarettes of America! It is a shame and an embarrassment that sweat shop coolies in Red China can now buy a pack of decent non-FSC American cigarettes at prices far cheaper than we Americans must now pay for the rotten, vile, poisonous FSC’s: makes you wonder which of the two countries is really the more totalitarian one, doesn’t it?
So, if you, dear readers, receive from me a change-of-address card from Peking, you’ll know just one of the reasons why I’ll have made the move.
hello hand rolled cigarettes should fix the job, step up and take 5seconds
to help save 10 years of your life, you can enjoy it still just be smart.
what happend to land of free home of the brave?this is the dumest sh-t i ever heard,this stuff they put in cigs can kill,my dad smoked for 65 yrs. and it didn’t kill him!!
Is the new FSC causing breathalizers to regester higher?
SHOCKING!!! WATCH THIS—COPY AND PASTE(BELOW TITLE) INTO YOU TUBE SEARCH
Dr Jeffrey Wigand says NZ should be Smoke free by 2020
This man is a powerful anti-tobacco (former Brown and Williamson exec.)cheerleader. He is BIG TIME in favor of this FSC crap. It says so on his website. He has strong ties with the FDA. You are being lied to by the FDA and the CDC and the United States Government. They are poisoning you into submission to eradicate cigarettes all together. FSC is a cover-up to force you to stop. They are also adding chemicals to tobacco to slowly make you ill. It is very subtle as to not blow there EVIL clandestine cover up and PLAN.
Anyone ever heard of selective genocide?
This is basically poisening a mass populace of people.They know it is unsafe and they know it will make people sick but it was push by The Coalition for Fire Safe Cigarettes and I believe a Orginization that boarders very closley to being a Terror Orginization.Any time a group of people plot to poisen a mass group of people through deception and legal trickery they are in my book Terrorists!Who in their right mind would allow and push for human beings to unknowingly ingest an extremeley toxic substance!There is NO Warning on the Labels saying we have changed your ciggarett and made a highly more toxic and dangerous one.Has the world gone completley nuts.I think we need congress and the senate to investigate this and if The Coalition for Fire Safe Cigarettes has violated any Terrorism statute to be prosecuted and branded a Terror Group!
I am very disappointed in people who still smoke after reading this. I mean common people, you are smoking carpet glue!! Does that sound healthy? I know we put things in our body that is very un-healthy. . but this is rediculous!! Why don’t they just sniff glue? Or better yet.. drink a bottle of bleach? People are inhaling a ton of chemicals over and over every day. I guess people don’t want to live that long? And if you haven’t guessed.. I am a non-smoker. And will be til the day I die. Which will be a lot longer than.. most of you people.
For those that are having trouble removing the stain off their thongs and teeth from the new FSC cigarettes, use good old fashion BAKING SODA, works great. Just can’t brush the crap out of our bodies.
Bet ya Obama, who also smokes, has SPECIAL cigarettes bought and paid for by us, the tax payer, with out the FSC (carpet glue) in them.
@Stephanie Kay
If it wasn’t for smokers, who do you think would subsidize all the special spending for most all parasites out there. Without smokers, the taxes you pay, which are probably very little or non, would go up dramatically. So if you are paying VERY LITTLE OR NON, you will be soon paying like those of us that do now. Funny, no sympathy for smokers addiction, the hardest one to break, but there is so much more for the druggies and alcoholics, who do most all the crime, and to top it off, THIS SORRY GOVERNMENT FUNDS HELPING THEM, PAYING THEIR MEDICAL AND DISABILITIES, AND WE, THE SMOKERS GET STUCK WITH MOST OF THE BILL. How about paying to help us or give us a disability check the rest of our lives like they do for most of them. GET REALLLL LADY. AN ADDICTION IS AN ADDITION, NOT A STUPID DISEASE. ALCOHOLICS AND DRUGGIES DON’T HAVE A SO CALLED DISEASE, THEY’RE ADDICTED, BUT IT’S LABELED A DISEASE SO THEY CAN GET DISABILITY FROM HARD WORKING TAX PAYERS.
where the haeck can a brother find some decent smokes
Our country is really starting to blow between the corrupt local state and federal governments the banking thugs the ruing of our neighborhoods right to schools this fn country is a FN joke OO yeah and Medical marijuana, no smokin in the night clubs,wata fn mess.but theres no shortage of crack or heroin here in my neighbor hood
i want some nonfsc smokes now
I have been smoking for 36 years. Stupid? Sure! My choice? Hell yeah!! I developed a horrible rash on both of my arms. My neighbor (a smoker too) had it all over her. A friend had it , got tested and it is from this toxic crap put in these FSC cigs (unbeknowst to us!) I want to quit, have quit and will quit again, but until then I will not touch these death sticks. RYO? Yep. I have lupus and thought the rash was from the Lupus. My Doctor had no idea what the rash was. I realized that if I smoked alot I could literally watch the rash spread. Our gov’t is so corrupt and so out of control it is crazy. I will be tested by my doctor for these poisons and I believe we should all rise up with a Class Action lawsuit. Drug addicts and alcoholics have posh rehabs to go to. Cigarette companies should offer us the same luxuries on their dime. Our choice to smoke? Yes? But it is an addiction brought on by their product. Most of us were teens when we started and had not the ability to comprehend addiction and all that it entails. So years later we are addicted. We are not stupid people! We are addicted people. Thanks to our gov’t for our new and improved glue,death sticks. If I want to die of lung cancer/emphesyma that is my choice. That takes years. I am not trying to die in a week Our gov’t sucks and always has.
We should do a class action law suit, and not against the Tobacco compines, but against our Government! Also against “Truth.com” who lobbies for this crap!
Well this explains a lot,I have smoked for about 25yrs,when all of a sudden for no reason in 2005 I started having panic attack symptoms so bad I went into the ER at the hospital thinking I was having a heart attack but the doctors found nothing wrong until 4/2008 I had high cholesterol and my main artery to my heart was 95 percent blocked,BUT that never had anything to do with the panic attacks,because I quit smoking for awhile after getting my stint put in,and no more attacks until I started back smoking,I know to quit would be the answer to this problem BUT its hard,very hard.BUT I will tell you that I NEVER HAD PANIC ATTACKS UNTIL THE FSC CIGARETTES WERE MADE!!!!!!! It only happens after smoking too many cigs especially so close together and the effects can last for a couple days after your last cigarette,I have quit cold turkey until I am around someone else that smokes or having a beer,then I will have just a couple until the next day then the symptoms start up again,this is madness!!!!! Does anyone else out there have this problem?? Because doctors DO NOT know about what is causing this!! PLEASE reply if anyone knows if they have this problem too!! Guess I will just quit all together or find some NON-FSC cigarettes if they are out there?? Oh and by the way I am only 42 yrs old!!
@Lynda Lynda – Are you still having those symptoms? I’ve been having the same thing, plus severe respiratory “infections” this past year, and have been put through hell with the mouth/gums/tongue problems. Please update on your symptoms/status – I’ve been to ENTs and a variety of other specialists and tests – I am now seeing a dermatologist to see if the symptoms are from anything used for dental purposes. Does a blood test show the ethylene vinyl acetate?
Most home fire are caused by grease while cooking. Thousands more than cigarette cause fires. Hundreds of thousands a year dire from high blood pressure and other ailments caused by grease in foods. I vote we add fire safe chemicals to all cooking oils. Sound absurd? Stop the hipocracy, smokers are the target , not fire!
I have been smoking for over 40 years without issue. I went to the gym 3 to 4 times a week (ran on treadmill, used rowing machine, rode stationary bike, etc…)now I can barely walk from my bedroom to the kitchen without being short of breath and dizzy. I have lost 20 pounds and look like I have aged 25 yearssince they changed the cigarttes. It’s crazy and my hubby thinks I’m nuts when I say it’s the cigs. He says onyou been smoking forever can’t be them go to dr and get checked out. Well I go they do every blood test they can think of and tell me nothing wrong just a little anemic and low on a few vitamins. Been doing everything dr told me to do (except quit smoking) and still feel like death warmed over. First we can’t smoke any where now I think they are trying to kill off us smokers, guess regular cigarettes aren’t doing it fast enough!
OK – let’s get to the bottom line. NO ONE is going to take up the FSC issue except insurance companies. They are the only ones getting hit in the pocket with paying. The FDA, nor any other agency will take on this politically sensitive issue. So, sending your health woes to the FDA is an exercise in futility. Your voice will not be heard.
File complaints with your insurance company. Call them. Write them. Let them know that the FSC laws that were passed using the emotionally tilted “deaths of 900 innocent children” parade banner is costing them THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS in medical costs.
I, too, had the symptoms of a heart attack after just two packs of Marlboro lights. Seven hours later of emergency room care – and the symptoms dissipated. On the way home, I had a couple cigarettes – and wham – the symptoms were back. I threw them in the trash and I now roll my own (American Spirit) one at a time.
Again – there is no government agency who is going to intervene as there is nothing in it for them. Insurance companies and the god almighty dollar is the winning ticket.
my insurance company didn’t waste too much on me did couple blood tests then told me what do you expect when you smoke…quit smoking and go see shrink cause it’s all in my head
I just found out that Natural Spirit is FSC but that they use a starch made from seaweed. So they are still completely additive free. This info came straight from their customer service line. I won’t be smoking anything else anymore.